Once upon a time there was a fandom, er farmdom...yeah a farm.
This farm wasn't as big s others but it was a good farm. It had friends a few asshats and some squabbles, but it was good.
Ever since this farm began there was this huge hog. This hog started out okay, but a few years later he became a true hog for glory and praises and entitlement.
This hog once worked in the apple orchard with some of the other animals. This hog particularly likes some of the sour and farm products that came out of the main farmhouse and wanted to use them as examples in running the orchard. The others working in the orchard turned them down.
This hog wanted to run the orchard his way and snorted in disgust at how some of the apple pickers were choosing how to pick the apples.
"You cant remove the stems from the golden delicious, that's just mean!"
The other animals were getting annoyed with the hog.
One day the hog decided that he should be called the head of the Orchard.
"Uh uh, no way." the other animals said. "There is a head of crop dusting a head of seed planting and a head of apple picking but there is no head of the Orchard."
"Fine," The Hog snorted. "Then run the orchard your way. Screw you guys, I'm going home."
Around the time the hog left was the time the White Hen was ready to retire from her small vegetable garden.
This Hen was loved by all, except for the rats that claim she couldn't grow decent vegetables and that her veggies were dirty. This hen had a handsome rooster for a husband and was the mother of an adorable and clever chick.
The hen had plenty going on in her life. In addition to the garden she grew her own side carrots and was ready to move onto her own corn field where she could sell the corn . With so much she felt it was time to hand the garden over to someone else.
"Me, me me," cried the hog. "I want to run it."
The hen gave him the garden.
A year later the other animals wondered why the garden was empty.
"Nobody cares about it," the hog whined. "Nobody tells me I'm doing a good job, or give me seeds or anything."
The other animal felt the hog was full of it but said nothing. One of the animals was the sweetest most cuddly kitty cat. She asked the hog if he needed any help.
"Sure," the hog grinned. "You can do this and this and this and...."
So in the end the kitty did all of the work and the Hog basked in the glory.
That was two years ago. Now other animals are bugging the poor kitty about the state of the garden.
This farm wasn't as big s others but it was a good farm. It had friends a few asshats and some squabbles, but it was good.
Ever since this farm began there was this huge hog. This hog started out okay, but a few years later he became a true hog for glory and praises and entitlement.
This hog once worked in the apple orchard with some of the other animals. This hog particularly likes some of the sour and farm products that came out of the main farmhouse and wanted to use them as examples in running the orchard. The others working in the orchard turned them down.
This hog wanted to run the orchard his way and snorted in disgust at how some of the apple pickers were choosing how to pick the apples.
"You cant remove the stems from the golden delicious, that's just mean!"
The other animals were getting annoyed with the hog.
One day the hog decided that he should be called the head of the Orchard.
"Uh uh, no way." the other animals said. "There is a head of crop dusting a head of seed planting and a head of apple picking but there is no head of the Orchard."
"Fine," The Hog snorted. "Then run the orchard your way. Screw you guys, I'm going home."
Around the time the hog left was the time the White Hen was ready to retire from her small vegetable garden.
This Hen was loved by all, except for the rats that claim she couldn't grow decent vegetables and that her veggies were dirty. This hen had a handsome rooster for a husband and was the mother of an adorable and clever chick.
The hen had plenty going on in her life. In addition to the garden she grew her own side carrots and was ready to move onto her own corn field where she could sell the corn . With so much she felt it was time to hand the garden over to someone else.
"Me, me me," cried the hog. "I want to run it."
The hen gave him the garden.
A year later the other animals wondered why the garden was empty.
"Nobody cares about it," the hog whined. "Nobody tells me I'm doing a good job, or give me seeds or anything."
The other animal felt the hog was full of it but said nothing. One of the animals was the sweetest most cuddly kitty cat. She asked the hog if he needed any help.
"Sure," the hog grinned. "You can do this and this and this and...."
So in the end the kitty did all of the work and the Hog basked in the glory.
That was two years ago. Now other animals are bugging the poor kitty about the state of the garden.
I swear, this is what needs to be done.
Date: 2006-01-05 07:33 pm (UTC)From:ASK THIS LOSER!
With his e-mail address below the picture
Re: I swear, this is what needs to be done.
Date: 2006-01-05 07:41 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-05 07:59 pm (UTC)From:- Patrick
no subject
Date: 2006-01-05 08:08 pm (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-05 09:37 pm (UTC)From:*is also proud he figured it out*
no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 12:35 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 12:42 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 12:49 am (UTC)From:When working on TGS he presented some stupid ideas. He wanted to do a story where Goliath was turned human because the thought that one Goliath Chronicles episode whould have been used as a good example.
One idea he didn't wnat to do involved Thailog ripping of Claw's wings. "That's too mean." Right that's so mean that even Thailog wouldn't try it. There is a lot more
Recently he got bitchy because the Eye of Odin Anthology because they left of his middle initial and Jr.
Then he said something stupid in S8 about GregW reading the Anthology.
There is a lot more, including a recorded chat and the legendery "Bullshit, Stephen, Bullshit." Quote
He tried to take over one of Lynati's panels in Gathering 03.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 01:12 am (UTC)From:Just... wow. What an ass. -.-;
no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 01:27 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 01:39 am (UTC)From:He was 2003's Demona May.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-08 07:03 pm (UTC)From:Just to play Devil's Advocate on one point, since TGS was trying to stay at a PG-13 or lighter level, Thailog ripping Claw's wings off would definitely be over the boundary. Since the wings are living limbs and Claw is sentient and counts as "human", DISMEMBERMENT of a human generally merits an 'R' rating, or did last time I looked at the rating guidelines.
And why not have an episode where Goliath turns human for a while? Angela and the Trio had their turn.
But for the rest, yeah, that's pretty pissy.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-09 12:51 am (UTC)From:As for TGS, and I was Head of Edits for a few years. But removal of limbs is definetly within the PG-13 level. It happens on television all the time. Hell, almost every Star Wars movie has limbs being chopped off right and left.
But Stephen's exact wording on the whole thing with Thailog taking Claw's wings was "That's too mean.". And saying we can't be that cruel to the characters. His stories had no balls, and the reason season 3 of TGS turned out as disjointed as it did was because he wanted it to be kiddie fare, and some of us wanted to tell good stories, "City of Stone" or "Hunter's Moon" type stories.
And he didn't want to turn Goliath into a human temporarily. He wanted to give him the same deal that Demona has. Human by day, gargoyle by night permanently. So he can be with Elisa... and thus removing any all dramatic tenstion from that relationship.
To quote Greg Weisman at Gathering 2003 (when asked if Goliath and Elisa would ever change species): "The Mirror was a one shot deal, but anyone who would change Goliath and Elisa permanently like this does not 'get' these characters or their dynamic.". Stephen was there, I looked over at him when Greg said this, and his face was turning red.
As for the rest, when Stephen finally did leave TGS it was because, for no reason whatsoever, just his ego and entitlement complex, he declared himself "Project Head", and tried to use that to be the Gathering 2000s Fan Guest of Honor (so he could get a free trip to the con), but TGS didn't have the Project Head position, never did. We told him to stop calling himself that, he wouldn't. This went on for a long time, and finally he took his bat and ball and went home. And good riddance.
At Gathering 2003, he said to me "I'd be willing to come back, if you guys asked me. But I want to be Art Director"... never mind that our Art Director, Revel, was standing right next to me when he said this.
Aw well, not on TGS anymore myself. But he was just a disgrace.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-09 01:30 am (UTC)From:Me and Alan get psyched about ti all, write it, and get our parts in. Stephen doesn't. For WEEKS. and WEEKS. Finally, he gets his part in, days before the story is supposed to go out.
AMongst other thigns, he had Brooklyn fighting a flying fire extinguisher in the rookery, making bad rhymes like "The rain in Spain falls mainly on the Payne", ripped off a scene line for line from the movie "Hook" (Nothing wrong homaging dialouge snippets, but this was an entire scene.) And he also made a Fat Albert reference, which nobody understood, and really, I don't see Brooklyn as the type to even know what Fat Albert is, let alone reference it. And as I recall, Stephen gave both me and Alan the advice of "Show the readers, don't tell them, whats going on". Huh wha?
Those are just the horrors I remember off the top of my head. Me and Alan were aghast, so we hurriedly edited and rewrote the story as best and fast as we could. There wasn't time to change everything, but we got rid of the most offending stuff and had a more or less proper version ready to go. (The "director's cut" still exists somewhere, and I've always meant to go back and fix it completely, but eh well...)
The episode went out as Stephen's version, cause Beth felt that was fairer.
The very first comment on the story was that it had a whole bunch of stuff that didn't seem to fit the content of the story properly, by Joxter I believe, and the guy proceeds to go through and review the entire story, and like hates every one of Stephen's parts. (I miss that guy, whatever happened to him? He like moved to Australia or something, right?) And Stephen immediatley declares, "I'm mighty suspicious of someone posting such an in depth and negative review of this story when they've never posted before! " By which I'm pretty sure Stephen was implying that Joxter was me or Alan. Nevermind the fact that the guy had been posting for like 6 months or a year and had done several reviews in the past.
Joxter points this out, and then Stephen is like "Well uh, there's been a person who has been annonymously emailing the staff saying bad stuff and I thought you might be them." Which is of course a really lousy cover for "Well, I thought you were Robby or Alan".
And of course, after that there were breakdowns for the next season of main TGS, when Stephen's idiocy came full front. I managed to shoot down all of his ideas and keep most of mine in place, but I'm pretty sure its Stephen specifically that burned me out on TGS as early as I did.
Oh, and Stephen's favorite movie ever is My Neighbor Totoro. Sure, its got a cute sequence or two in it, and it has all the typical Miyazaki standards of quality where the actual look of the thing is concerned, but its the most boring non threatening inconsequential movie ever. I mean, its even boring in fast forward!
no subject
Date: 2006-01-09 02:44 am (UTC)From:He's like a 13 yer old fanpoodle who shouts. "Don't like it, don't read it." when someone wrote a less thn stellar review of their friend's fanfic.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-09 02:47 am (UTC)From:When bad reviews were posted for Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within, Atlantis, the Star Wars prequels, Stephen would always throw a temper tantrum. Never mind that those of us who payed to see it are allowed to rant.
Oh, and he liked Jar Jar Binks.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-09 03:12 am (UTC)From:Reminds me of the asskissers in the GCD and Feedback area of Gaia. Whenever anyone posts feedback that isn't "I Love it" They get so whiny and defensive of the admins.
"Don't like it? Then leave."
Now there is a sticky saying that they cant tell people to leave. It seems the Admins are adult enough to take feedback.
no subject
Date: 2006-01-06 02:02 am (UTC)From:no subject
Date: 2006-01-07 05:41 pm (UTC)From: